“Universal Health Care Breeds Terrorists” – FoxNews

Yeah – I swear I’m not making this one up. Read it at ThinkProgress.org.

UPDATE! Watch the video yourself and see what you think – fair and balanced or fear-mongering?

From truthmeansfreedom:


Well, he is a Neocon, deeply embedded in the “Network” of those so called “conservatives” – and in no way has he got any qualification to talk about healthcare:



In short:

Jerry Bowyer is the chairman of Bowyer Media, a company specializing in radio and television production, print and internet publishing and economic analysis.

He was also the President of the Allegheny Institute for Public Policy a few years ago (not any more!), a Pittsburgh- based conservative policy organization.

This organization gets financed by the foundations of Richard Mellon Scaife, the “infamous” ultraconservative billionaire.

About Richard Mellon Scaife:



“Washington Post” mentioning Scaife and Jerry Bowyer in 1999:


For the record: Jerry Bowyer denies to be financed by Scaife – see here:


So, that’s a nice example how “independent” the guests on Fox are – and it is interesting that Jerry Bowyer gets practically no introduction by Neil Cavuto whatsoever – giving the impression that he is a competent, independent journalist or “expert” on the subject. But he is nothing more than a conservative “pundit”.

You will find more info about these “conservative foundations”, controlling at least 1 billion $ in assets, here:


Lots of examples of Jerry Bower’s plain way of thinking can be found on his website:


Another interesting thing:

If you google “Richard Scaife pharma” you come to this page:


(ISPE calls themselves the “largest non-for-profit society serving pharmaceutical manufacturing professionals”)

Richard Scaife is the Director of Business Development Quintiles Inc, a huge pharma company.

I believe that this Richards Scaife mentioned there is not “Richard Mellon Scaife”, the billionaire – but hey, I will eat my hat if they are not related 🙂

Just as an example of how the corporate world is connected in the USA, and which role Fox News plays in there as the prime “corporate mouthpiece”…



Interviewing Donald Rumsfeld (to Rumsfeld: “I am a great admirer”):



Is this “your world”???

The universal healtcare systems in UK, Germany etc. support terrorism…?

Watch out for more Fox News spin about universal healthcare – we haven’t seen the end yet. “SiCKO” by Michael Moore has hit a nerve.

See also the comments on:


Say “When.”


  1. illa morales

    Yikes they will spin anything!!!

  2. illa morales

    Speaking of terrorists…
    NEW YORK (AP) – Democrat John Edwards Wednesday repudiated the notion that there is a “global war on terror,” calling it an ideological doctrine advanced by the Bush administration that has strained American military resources and emboldened terrorists.
    In a defense policy speech he planned to deliver at the Council on Foreign Relations, Edwards called the war on terror a “bumper sticker” slogan Bush had used to justify everything from abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison to the invasion of Iraq.
    “We need a post-Bush, post-9/11, post-Iraq military that is mission focused on protecting Americans from 21st century threats, not misused for discredited ideological purposes,” Edwards said in remarks prepared for delivery. “By framing this as a war, we have walked right into the trap the terrorists have set—that we are engaged in some kind of clash of civilizations and a war on Islam.”

  3. illa morales

    Check this out!!! Memo sent secretly to Michael Moore from a BC/BS employee.

  4. illa morales

    Check this out!!! Memo to Michael moore from Blue Cross Blue Shield employee.
    Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:29 PM
    Page 1 of 4
    Subject: Capital BlueCross Sicko memo
    Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2007 1:42 PM
    Conversation: Capital BlueCross Sicko memo
    [The following memo was written by Barclay Fitzpatrick, VP of Corporate Communications for Capital
    I was able to see Sicko last night in Lancaster. There were about 30 other viewers in the theatre
    covering all age groups. I have attached the well-written memo from one of our partners, which
    describes cases used in the movie, to the end of my memo. Also attached are the latest talking
    points from BCBSA. I will focus on impact to our brands, issues, and suggested strategies in this
    The Movie
    You would have to be dead to be unaffected by Moore’s movie, he is an effective storyteller. In
    Sicko Moore presents a collage of injustices by selecting stories, no matter how exceptional to the
    norm, that present the health insurance industry as a set of organizations and people dedicated to
    denying claims in the name of profit. Denial for treatments that are considered “experimental” is
    a common story, along with denial for previous conditions, and denial for application errors or
    omissions. Individual employees from Humana and other insurers are interviewed who claim to have
    actively pursued claim denial as an institutionalized goal in the name of profit.
    While Humana and Kaiser Permanente are demonized, the BlueCross and BlueShield brands appear,
    separately and together, visually and verbally, with such frequency that there should be no doubt
    that whatever visceral reaction his movie stirs will spill over onto the Blues brands in every
    market. Here are some examples:
    * Horizon BlueCross/BlueShield is picked out early in the film in a collage of stories citing bad
    treatment of members.
    * BCBSA is cited for rejecting a woman for coverage due to a high BMI – “too fat” is written
    across the screen over a copy of her application denial letter, which describes the BMI rejection.
    * BlueShield of California denied coverage for a diagnostic test, which the patient later
    received overseas. Patient sues BS of CA and medical director admits to not ‘seeing’ the actual
    denial letter, which was given an electronic signature.
    * BlueCross of California denied payment for a major surgery after they discovered a previous
    yeast infection, then dropped the person for coverage. This is followed by an interview with a
    person who claims to have been a specialist at finding inaccuracies in applications to enable posttreatment
    payment denials.
    * A BCBSA card is shown while the narrator describes how they (insurers) got wealthy.
    In typical Moore fashion, Government and business leaders are behind a conspiracy to keep the
    little guy down and dominated while getting rich. Nixon Oval Office tapes are used to show how the
    initial idea of a ‘less care = profit’ enterprise was supported by the administration and became
    the HMO paradigm. Legislators are presented as bought stooges for the political agendas of
    insurers and big Pharma. Insurers are middlemen in the Medicare Modernization Act – which is
    presented as a trick to charge seniors more for their prescription drugs.
    Doctors are barely touched – only in the course of discussing the AMA’s work to sink early efforts
    in the 40’s and 50’s to start universal health care. He takes efforts to show that doctors live
    well in other countries despite the existence of universal health care. In follow-up interviews,
    Moore has stated that he has spoken to and knows many doctors, and “doctors aren’t the problem”.
    In the second half of the movie, Moore walks us through individual stories of the Canadian,
    British, French, and Cuban health care systems where everything is free and – he reminds us
    repeatedly – no one is ever denied service because they can’t pay. In addition to health care, the
    government provides free day care, college, and someone to do your laundry. Everybody gets along
    and takes care of each other and life is beautiful because there is universal health care. As a
    viewer, you are made to feel ashamed to be an American, a capitalist, and part of a ‘me’ society
    instead of a ‘we’ society – and the lack of universal health care is held up in support of that
    The Impact
    Page 2 of 4
    Moore’s movies are intentionally intense and his objective in Sicko seems to be to revive the
    earlier Clinton efforts – not to achieve universal coverage with this movie, but to push the topic
    to the top of the agenda. He will be just as successful whether proponents mount momentum or
    discussion entails key stakeholders defending why it won’t work.
    As a health care industry educated viewer it is easy to pick out where Moore is cultivating
    misperceptions to further a political agenda, but you will also recognize that 80%+ of the audience
    will have their perceptions substantially affected. In demonstration of its impact, an informal
    discussion group ensued outside the theatre after the movie. While some people recognized how onesided
    the presentation was, most were incredulous and “I didn’t know they (the insurers) did that!”
    was a common exclamation followed by a discussion of the example.
    The unfortunate reality for Capital BlueCross is that as the market leader, we will be affected
    both in brand and as employees as Moore’s efforts in the movie and surrounding PR activity are seen
    by more of the community. The impact on industry savvy Sales’ contacts should be minimal, while
    the impact on small business decision makers, our members, the community, and our employees could
    be significant. Ignoring its impact might be a successful strategy only if it flops, but that has
    not been the history of Moore’s films nor the way this one appears to be headed. If popular, the
    movie will have a negative impact on our image in this community.
    There should be no doubt that many of our employees will be asked what they think of the movie by
    friends, family, and neighbors. We should anticipate that our customer service people will be
    asked about particular cases from the movie and if we follow similar policies. Word and phrases we
    have routinely used to date in policy change communications or denial letters, such as
    “Investigational”, will be seen as affirming the film’s contentions. The national BCBSA response –
    while coming out against the film’s divisiveness and focusing on the positive work of the Blues –
    steers media inquiries about policies and denials back to the plans themselves.
    There are 4 key areas of misperception cultivated by the movie that we should consider in any
    messaging strategy:
    1. That the industry is all about HMO’s. Moore cultivates this further in his interviews.
    The reality is that HMO’s are a minority product and have been for some time.
    2. The movie attacks insurers for a profit motive, but makes no distinction among for-profit
    and non-profit insurers, and in its execution places the Blue Plans together with the for-profit
    3. All plans and employees – from leaders to service representatives – are painted as
    motivated by profit to deny claims, and only those with crisis of conscience have come forward to
    confess their sins.
    4. Perhaps most damaging of all, Moore completely fails to address the most significant driver
    of health care costs – our own lifestyle choices – and seeks to focus attention and efforts on the
    alluring ‘quick-fix’ of universal health care. It has taken a generation of poor nutrition and
    exercise to get obesity and related health issues – and subsequent costs – to their current levels,
    and Moore’s movie fails to acknowledge the causal relationship or need to change (he briefly
    touches the subject in a non-memorable way). Contrast this to the recent Health Care Symposium
    held in Harrisburg – where a panel of representatives from Government, Insurance, Hospitals,
    Business, Physicians, and even Lawyers agreed on one thing – that there was no quick fix and that
    Health and Wellness was the critical area of focus.
    I believe the most successful strategy will not be in attacking the movie for its weaknesses or
    misperceptions, but in distancing ourselves and our brand from the groups and motivations he
    attacks, demonstrating the good that we do and achieve (aligns with BCBSA strategy), and in
    articulating our disappointment that he did not address the truly relevant issue of improving our
    health and wellness. We will convene a team to consider other approaches and work on potential
    messages for media inquiries, customer service, and employees.
    Confidential Memo (from partner)
    SiCKO – viewed on 6/26/2007
    Page 3 of 4
    * The main theme of the movie is that American society needs to focus on the “we” and not the
    “me” in healthcare.
    o This broad message is an overlay for the specific criticisms of the healthcare
    industry – the movie asks where the morality of the American public lies and contrasts America’s
    approach to health care unfavorably with other nations.
    * SiCKO does not go into any depth about how health insurers operate how the health insurance
    business works – instead it fixates on what it characterizes as the profit incentive to deny care
    to patients (e.g. examples of barriers to getting health insurance if you are not healthy;
    examples of people being denied expensive tests or procedures; examples of efforts to deny
    reimbursement after care has been received.)
    * The film draws no distinction between not-for-profit and for-profit insurers – in fact the
    Blue Cross/Blue Shield brand is intermixed with the for – profit brands as background reference
    o One scene shows a Blue Cross / Blue Shield logo as Michael Moore’s voice over
    begins, “While the healthcare companies get wealthy…”
    * The health insurers that get the most airtime are:
    o Kaiser Permanente
    o Humana
    o CIGNA
    o Blue Cross of California
    o Aetna
    * No Pharma companies are mentioned – but SiCKO suggests in multiple instances that
    prescription drugs are overpriced
    o At a pharmacy in London, prescription drugs are £6.65, no matter how large the dose
    o In Cuba, one bankrupt 9/11 worker’s inhaler costs 5 cents, instead of $100
    Further Notes
    * Some of the examples of denial of care highlighted in the film:
    o A woman with Kaiser Permanente takes her 18-month daughter to the hospital in an
    ambulance, only to be told to go to an in-network hospital. By the time they reach the second
    hospital, her daughter has stopped breathing and dies 30 minutes later in ER.
    o A woman with Blue Shield of California has a tumor but is denied requests to get an
    MRI, or to see a specialist. While on vacation in Japan she is given an MRI, and eventually
    returns to the U.S. to demand treatment from her insurer.
    * In the ensuing court case, a doctor admits to denying her request without
    having reviewed it.
    o Blue Cross of California approves one woman’s $7,500 treatment, but the approval is
    later denied for her failure to report a previous medical incident – a yeast infection.
    * “They’re just looking for a way out,” she says
    * Other examples of how health insurers avoid paying for treatment:
    o One graph (from Humana) shows that doctors with the highest % of denials get a
    o Michael Moore interviews a former health insurance employee who specialized in
    denying care to patients retroactively – by finding inconsistencies in their medical records.
    o A 5-minute piece in the beginning of the movie .
    * The film also focuses on the politicians and the funds they raise from Pharma and other
    Page 4 of 4
    player in the health care industry and alleges that the system has been heavily influenced by
    lobbyists and contributions.
    Barclay Fitzpatrick
    Vice President
    Corporate Communications
    Capital BlueCross
    (w) 717-541-7752
    (c) 717-329-3648
    Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association
    Talking Points in Response to Michael Moore’s “Sicko”
    June 2007
    1) The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association (BCBSA) and the 39 Blue Cross and Blue Shield
    companies are committed to improving the U.S. healthcare system for our nearly 100 million members
    through continuous innovation that reflects the ever-changing healthcare landscape and the needs of
    the consumer.
    2) The Blues recognize the need for improvement of both the coverage and delivery of healthcare.
    But the divisive tone set forth by Michael Moore and his movie “Sicko” is not helpful. Positive
    change to our healthcare system can be best achieved through shared responsibility, not
    recrimination. To ensure Americans have access to the best healthcare that is both timely,
    efficient, and of high quality, requires the collective contribution of all stakeholders –
    consumers, providers, employers and the government.
    3) The Blues participation in the Health Coverage Coalition for the Uninsured is a primary example
    of how the broader healthcare community is working together to reduce the number of uninsured in
    the United States.
    4) The Blues are working on myriad initiatives that ensure Americans have access to quality and
    affordable healthcare. Each day, Blue Plans across the country are bringing healthcare value to
    their members in a number of ways such as new advances in health information technology and greater
    access to cost and quality information. In addition:
    o The Blues recently created Blue Health Intelligence a data resource that will shine light on
    emerging medical trends and treatment options in an unprecedented way. To further the use of
    evidenced-based medicine, BCBSA has called upon Congress to establish an independent, payer-funded
    institute that will study the comparative effectiveness of new and existing medical treatments and
    o Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies are at the forefront of healthcare transparency by
    providing their members with online access to real-time information related to provider quality and
    the cost of common healthcare services. In addition, the Blues have committed to making personal
    health records available to their members by 2008.
    o We are working to ensure that Medicare is funded appropriately and that seniors continue to
    have access to comprehensive benefits.
    5) The Blues are proud of these efforts and we will continue to work with consumers, providers,
    employers and the government to provide Americans with the healthcare services and information they
    need to lead full, healthy lives.

  5. colonizethemoon

    While fox news may have had a tag line that said such absurdity it should be noted that the guest did not. In fact the one point that he actually did make was nothing more than accurate and relevant: Socialized health care means more imported doctors. Does that mean that we are all of a sudden more susceptible to terrorists? Of course not, and unfortunately for the far left that is trying to spin this into absurdity that was not addressed whatsoever by the guest. This one is 100% Fox News’ fault.

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