Well George – the Plan to Make Us Feel “Safer” Isn’t Working…

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) – Many people in the United States feel their country is less safe now than six years ago when, it was the target of a major terrorist attack, according to a poll by Hart/Newhouse released by The Wall Street Journal and NBC News. 37 per cent of respondents feel the U.S. is more vulnerable today, up 14 points since September.

Conversely, 34 per cent of respondents think the U.S. is safer now—down eight points in 10 months—and 27 per cent believe the country is about as safe.

Al-Qaeda operatives hijacked and crashed four airplanes in the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001, killing nearly 3,000 people. In July 2004, the federal commission that investigated the events of 9/11 concluded that “none of the measures adopted by the U.S. government from 1998 to 2001 disturbed or even delayed the progress of the al-Qaeda plot” and pointed out government failures of “imagination, policy, capabilities, and management.”

In August 2006, London’s Metropolitan Police Service announced that more than 20 people had been arrested in connection with an alleged terrorist plot. According to the authorities, a group planned to destroy airplanes flying from Britain to the U.S. by detonating bombs manufactured with materials that could be brought on board as part of a passenger’s carry-on luggage.

Earlier this month, homeland security secretary Michael Chertoff discussed last year’s scheme, saying, “I think that the plot, in terms of its intent, was looking at devastation on a scale that would have rivalled 9/11. If they had succeeded in bringing liquid explosives on seven or eight aircraft, there could have been thousands of lives lost and an enormous economic impact with devastating consequences for international air travel.”

Polling Data

Do you think that, as a country, we are more safe, about as safe, or less safe than we were before the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?

  Jul. 2007 Sept. 2006 Sept. 2005
More safe 34% 42% 31%
About as safe 27% 32% 37%
Less safe 37% 23% 31%
Not sure 2% 3% 1%

Source: Hart/Newhouse / The Wall Street Journal / NBC News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,005 American adults, conducted from Jul. 27 to Jul. 30, 2007. Margin of error is 3.1 per cent.

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  1. Back to the survey results, altho an interesting video. 35 years ago, when I was in high school, you couldn’t graduate without knowing the Bill of Rights; but upon reflection, I don’t recall either of my boys being required to pass a US consitution course. The youngest attended one of the top 10 high schools in our state.

    If I feel safer today it is only in small part due to any efforts made by federal government; it is wholly attributed to observing the actions of my neighbors and fellow citizens. When flying on 9/27/01 (originally scheduled 9/12 trip); fellow passengers discretely insisted all baggage of the two obvious Muslim passengers be thoroughly searched. For the 4 hour flight, I would say there was no less than 4 pairs of eyes on each. Even my just turned 18 year old insisted I take the usually cherished window seat “in case”, altho I tried to reassure him the search should have been enough to keep us safe. I noticed this repeated throughout the plane, men protectively taking the aisle seat and surveying.

    Nowadays, more ordinary citizens actually notice the random unattended bag, briefcase, car or suspicous behavior. American citizens have become more observant!

    And I don’t think the federal government can take any credit for that, except their previous actions that allowed 9/11 to go down the way it did. And the real crime of continuing to allow easy paths for illegals to enter our country, not sure if their real purpose is a “better life” living in the U.S. or if they are going for the “better life” afterlife has NOT changed; and is ultimately, why no one can or should feel safer.

    Also, because of the lack of support after the catastrophe of 9/11, and Katrina…people feel less safe because they know they can not rely on our government to help them through any crisis.

  2. illa morales

    Terrorists Win: Americans Living In Perpetual Fear
    Poll numbers confirm majority of Americans feel less safe than before 9/11 as more globalist figureheads promise huge attacks

    http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/080807fear.htm

  3. illa morales

    Beyond Disaster

    Iraq Is About to Become a Lot Worse

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18141.htm

  4. Illa, both are excellent articles, but these US military actions will have far more impact:

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL0819099220070808

    Altho often accused of “simplifying” and “over simplifying”; I have maintained since GWB decided to overrule the UN, that this was another religious war we were getting involved in. Yes, many have noticed, Arabian Muslims attacked US, US attacks Iraq Muslims. What’s the common denominator? I was surprised we did not start the concentration camps here in the US, as we did before when confronted with possible internal enemies. I still hold out on the hope that is what the administration plans for those Halliburton encampments, and they are not for citizens exercising the right of free speech. But, I always try to be hopeful about these things. And I hope we didn’t give the administration any ideas with our speculations.

    Even the CNN “Muslim correspondent” the lovely young lady who’s name I can’t spell; had been maintaining the AQ is made up of Muslim individuals who had no other education than the religious “brain washing” we have all observed. And when interviewed directly during the recent London bust of Doctors involved in the planned attacks there; she admitted “we are all lost”. Her “we” I take to mean Muslims, as her long term “brain washing” theory just got washed up.

    Along with the political prisoner camps, I also expected the Koran to be examined thoroughly, and perhaps even edited for distribution in the States. We already have so much censorship, and this book obviously instructs/incites folks to harm others not of their faith. Which really confuses me, as Mr. Ali, et al American Muslims, didn’t go to Vietnam because they are “a non-violence religion”? I made the further link, that must be why they can’t maintain control in their own country and need military help, as they are too peaceful of a people?

    It is so contradictory, and if their own religious leaders can not figure out how to unite the schools of thought; how can any outsiders presume to do so?

    And the youngsters in New Jersey prove that the Koran is a dangerous book, even in the hands of the educated. Albeit a possibly inferior American education where they are not familiar with the Constitution.

  5. illa morales

    Most people are afraid of nationalities that they have not experienced. All religions hold some truth and it is merely the extremists who manipulate it, to control the masses. Most religious texts, all over the world, are warped into the support that is needed to justify certain actions. Knowledge of all religions is never dangerous, only the ones who use it as justification for unjust acts are dangerous.

  6. illa morales

    Sorry Laura this war is not religion based. This war is about big money oil that lines our good christian hypocritical president’s pockets!!

  7. baileyhampton

    I think before we condemn an entire religion – one that most of us admittedly know virtually nothing about other than what we’ve been fed by the mainstream media, we need to seriously look at the history of Christianity. To the outsider, the many wars fought in its name look at least as violent as you say Islam is – and for centuries longer. When you pinpoint people as claiming to be “non-violent,” you need to look at the atrocities that have been committed in the name of “The Prince of Peace.” From the behavior of Christians, outsiders can also assume the Bible instructs/incites its followers to acts of violence on non-believers as well.

    If this is indeed a “religious war” – for which there is very little evidence – then there are TWO SIDES FIGHTING! Claiming God is on one side or the other is like claiming He cares about who wins a football game. MY God is appalled by the audacity of anyone claiming to be His favorite!

    The plan is to make an enemy – one that looks and sounds and believes differently than you do. Would you be angered to find out that the other side says the same thing about YOU? That because of the way you look and dress and believe, you are the enemy and the devil and the terrorist? I really want to know why it’s ok for us to think that of them but not ok for them to think that of us? It’s because we’re the “good guys?” NOT ANYMORE!!!!!

    We invaded a sovereign nation WITHOUT BEING ASKED – where would you stand if it happened here? I daresay most of us would become “insurgents.” They don’t hate us because of our way of life – they hate us because of our arrogance and policies.

    If you want to see the REAL reason behind anything done in the world – follow the money. Everything else is a smokescreen designed to hook our sympathies and garner support.

    Oil, indeed – and war is good business. Look to see who is making money off of sending our sons and daughters to war. Ideology? Not a chance – it’s DOLLARS!

  8. illa morales

    Hear Hear, and Eastern Religions teach us to find the similarities in all humans in the world. Walk a day in my shoes. Differences were meant to enrich not to separate.

  9. illa morales

    Halliburton Makes a Killing on Iraq War

    http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=6008

  10. illa morales

    Iraq will not fall for proposed hydrocarbon law

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/08/3061/

  11. Bailey, another video just came out a few days ago, this time again from the converted Californian born Muslim. In case you missed the other 100 or so similar, and were on vacation 9/11, THEY ALL DID DECLARE WAR ON US and repeatedly threaten us! And IT IS because of the way I look, dress and live.

    You speak of history, as if I am personally responsible for it? And you speak of bible stories as tho they are directly relevent to current facts. I am as insulted as when a person of color insinuates one of my ancestors owned slaves (by the way, not in the 200 years I am sure about).

    Iraq people did not like us before we invaded. As a matter of fact, most of the world has looked favorably at the U.S.from strictly a $ standpoint. Why do you think China started negotiating deals with us Instantly?

    We are speculating strategy here. I am proposing another possible strategy the Administration is or will try to promote.

    We know the money/oil was why GWB did not listen to his generals; took the troops off Bin’s trail in Afghanistan and sent them to Iraq. The boost of war expenses in the US economy was sure to make Republicans look good; besides the additional gift of personal profit for so many; as agreed upon in forums here, democrats & republicans alike.

    Or was it? Bin’s brother and other oil baron associates were here for a 1-2 day trip on 9/11. Planned just that way, just 1 or 2 days for all attendees. Again I ask, and maybe webmaster will put a poll on this;

    Were they here to see the show? (or was the show put purposely on for them?)

    This question plagued me, but time has answered it for me.

    After 6 years of our proficient(?) CIA, FBI, SS, Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, numerous Allies(?) not being able to find Bin, dialysis machine or medical trail; I have to believe GWB (or sr.) has promised someone HE WILL NOT BE CAUGHT, he will die a natural death. Which puts our administration working even more closely with Saudi Arabia and the oil cartel then people are even considering now.

    The Administrations attempts to add Iran and now Pakistan, to the list of invaded and occupied countries fits in with the theory that GWB has the US doing the cartel’s dirty work, at our expense of course.

    His proposed invasions are not being received well. GWB, all the war mongers will have to present it to citizens as a religious war to continue to justify and plunder other countrys with our young people.

    So, we must reach out now to embrace these peoples in our communities; and they must show equal tolerance and participation in our society as they practice among themselves and their society.

    It may not be check mate, but it can thwart efforts by the administration to justify continued invasions. I mean, since most of Congress apparently has reasons not to impeach the Crooks & Liars; and the next election is really way to far off…

  12. What I am suggesting, in the effort to unite the religions, is that Muslim leaders take it upon themselves to edit the Koran. Many religions have edited their versions of their bible; and this would be a positive move for the world in general.

  13. baileyhampton

    Laura – I am really not interested in getting into an argument with you – and I was not only not on vacation on 9/11 but I was right in the middle of it. I frankly saw it – and don’t believe a word of the “official version” – so the “fact” that they declared war on us is still not a done deal for me.

    I will suggest to you that, if this is a religious war – which it is not – then the Muslims are fighting another religion and that religion would be Christianity. If “God” told GW to go to war, and GW is a fundamentalist Christian, then the Muslims are fighting Christians – and a fight is a fight no matter which side you are on. And, believe me, both sides think the other is in the wrong.

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I have no desire to try to change it – in fact, there are points you’ve made that I agree with. On the topic of religion, however, we strongly disagree. I will say that for a non-Muslim to suggest that they “edit” their holy book to make it more palatable to Westerners is highly offensive – in much the same way as it would be if they asked Christians to edit their holy book to make non-Christians more comfortable with it.

  14. illa morales

    Laura, Christianity is not superior to muslim or any religions of the world. Have you read the Koran? What if you totally throw religion out of the scenario? Take the Iraq situation look at it from all angles, without religion. Would throwing out your Bible cause religions to unite? No, So therefore your claim that editing of the Koran will stop violence can not hold up to the present situation. Muslims are not evil, muslim extremists are scary, like all extreme philosophies. But Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and we attacked a soverign nation without UN backing.

    What we are trying to say is forget about who’s good or bad. Get beyond the good and bad propaganda. Blaming a book for a few extremists, is like looking at a painting through a microscope. To get the full picture one must step away from the eyepiece, to be able to view the whole picture. Is there a difference between a black and white cat? No there are still cats, neither good nor bad. We are all human beings whom pray to the same God, whether his name is Allah, Buddha, Shiva, Yahweh, Adonai, etc.. Different names for the same God. And WHAT RELIGION IS GOD?

  15. illa morales

    Find out if your congresspeople were among the missing!Some Lawmakers Got a Headstart on Recess missing out on FISA vote.

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/080907L.shtml

  16. listentomom

    “The Koran says that if Islamic land is attacked by
    foreigners, armed resistance is obligatory. This is until
    today out of question in the common sense.”

    Read about what has caused the insurgency and the radicalism from the source – you owe it to yourself before you make comments. It’s a kind of “walk a mile in my shoes” thing.

    Extraordinary Interview With Pro-resistance Iraqi Nationalist:

    http://ouraim.blogspot.com/2007/07/extradordinary-interview-with-pro.html

  17. illa morales

    I have read the koran from cover to cover, believe me it’s taken out of context. Just like Biblic quotes when the whole parable must be read.

    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
    Mahatma Gandhi, (attributed)
    Indian political and spiritual leader (1869 – 1948)

  18. illa morales

    listentomom, your blogspot is speaking about the extremists I’m speaking about, not the norm of the islam religion.

  19. illa morales

    the bottom line is this is not about religion.

  20. listentomom

    Ah yes – this is not my blog but rather one I recently ran across. My intention is to be as aware of all involved as I can be. I choose not to make assumptions if I can listen to someone in the know. I agree that these are extremists – but isn’t that who we are engaging now? On both sides, I’d say. The majority of Muslims are against war – as I would hope are most Christians. But we aren’t the ones running the show now, are we?

  21. listentomom

    You are correct, illa – nor is it about ideology, as baileyhampton said – it is about money and only money. And I think the money makers are on both sides – and the citizens get caught in the middle.

  22. illa morales

    Totally agree, the problem lies with the One running the show.

  23. illa morales

    Just a recap Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or extremists.

  24. illa morales

    The koran is actually spelled Quran and perhaps this might help..
    Similarities between the Qur’an and the Bible

    http://www.thefellowship.info/documents/Quran_07.pdf

  25. illa morales

    I am sure that many people share my concern about the present worldwide moral crisis and will join in my appeal to all humanitarians and religious practitioners who also share this concern to help make our societies more compassionate, just, and equitable. I do not speak as a Buddhist or even as a Tibetan. Nor do I speak as an expert on international politics (though I unavoidably comment on these matters). Rather, I speak simply as a human being, as an upholder of the humanitarian values that are the bedrock not only of Mahayana Buddhism but of all the great world religions. From this perspective I share with you my personal outlook – that:
    Universal humanitarianism is essential to solve global problems;
    Compassion is the pillar of world peace;
    All world religions are already for world peace in this way, as are all humanitarians of whatever ideology;
    Each individual has a universal responsibility to shape institutions to serve human needs.

    His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

  26. illa morales

    His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

    In their quest for happiness, humans have used different methods, which all too often have been cruel and repellent. Behaving in ways utterly unbecoming to their status as humans, they inflict suffering upon fellow humans and other living beings for their own selfish gains. In the end, such shortsighted actions bring suffering to oneself as well as to others. To be born a human being is a rare event in itself, and it is wise to use this opportunity as effectively and skillfully as possible. We must have the proper perspective that of the universal life process, so that the happiness or glory of one person or group is not sought at the expense of others.

    For renewal of human values and attainment of lasting happiness, we need to look to the common humanitarian heritage of all nations the world over. May this essay serve as an urgent reminder lest we forget the human values that unite us all as a single family on this planet.

    I have written the above lines
    To tell my constant feeling.
    Whenever I meet even a ‘foreigner’,
    I have always the same feeling:
    ‘I am meeting another member of the human family.,
    This attitude has deepened

    My affection and respect for all beings.

    May this natural wish be
    My small contribution to world peace.
    I pray for a more friendly,
    More caring, and more understanding
    Human family on this planet.
    To all who dislike suffering,
    Who cherish lasting happiness –
    This is my heartfelt appeal.

  27. illa morales

    If you would like to read more of the Dali Lama’s thoughts on world peace.

    http://www.dalailama.com/page.62.htm

  28. illa morales

    A Feast of Bullshit and Spectacle: The Great American Media Mind Warp

    http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/58437/

  29. illa morales

    How the Democrats Blew It in Only Eight Months

    http://www.alternet.org/stories/59367/

  30. illa morales

    A Nation Under Duress: Something Very, Very Wrong in America Today
    Silence Dogood, August 7th, 2007
    While fleshing out the Bush administration’s latest Democratic-surrendered tyrannical power-grab, the National Public Radio (NPR) personality and her “expert” guest had succeeded in remaining perfectly “objective.” Yes, “objective,” because we wouldn’t want anyone to realize that there is something very, very wrong in America today.

    “So, this bill gives the government the power to listen in on U.S. citizens’ phone conversations – calls originating in the United States and this can be done without a warrant or any outside oversight, correct?”

    “Yes, that’s right – for terrorism-related purposes, of course.”

    “Right, and who administers or oversees the program?”

    “Uh-huh, Alberto Gonzales will share that responsibility with the NSA Director.”

    “But this bill is about more than the government listening in on phone calls, isn’t it? It also, according to one Congressional aide, gives the government the power to do physical searches – again, this can be carried out without a warrant or oversight. Is that correct?”

    “Yes, that is right. It is possible now, that, in some instances, the government could enter American citizens’ homes without permission and without obtaining a warrant.”

    The detached “objectivity” of the entire “analysis” was quite sickening. Listening to them speak became a macabre experience … sort of like watching one of the old “Twilight Zone” episodes, an episode wherein the character is the only “normal” person remaining, while everyone else has been made into mindless zombies. The NPR personality and her so-called expert were discussing the total disintegration of the United States’ constitution and Bill of Rights, and they did it without a hint of alarm or concern. “Nothing important going on here folks – keep driving, no thinking – keep it moving … .”

    A few years ago, the insane and emotionless delivery of the news of the death of American citizens’ civil liberties would have, perhaps, struck one with a sense of shock, horror, and outrage. However, after being lied into a senseless war; after living under a government that not only tortures human beings, but also defends, with pride, its torture practices; after having been told time and again that the government will, without pause, use nuclear weapons on a group of terrorists – terrorists who are nothing more than common criminals and thugs; and after discovering that the government is running a series of Soviet-like secret gulags – after all that, one is no longer surprised. Sorry, fresh out of “I can’t f#@%ing believe” its.

    Indeed, all that is left now, is a sense of knowing – a completely “objective” knowing that the United States of America is dead … killed by a group of “homegrown terrorists” dressed in expensive suits. And, the punks and thugs, replaced the United States with a fascist state. They can call it whatever they choose – maybe Bushlandia or Corporatiststan, but if they continue to call it the United States of America, they’re lying. They’re lying, because the United States of America ceased to exist the moment the constitution died.

    By all means, when it finally dawns on you that the United States is dead, remain “objective.” We wouldn’t want anyone to realize that there is something very, very wrong in America today.

  31. illa morales

    What Unites Iraqis: Blocking Western Petroleum Companies From Seizing Control of Their Oil

    http://energizenowinitiative.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-unites-iraqis-blocking-western.html

  32. illa morales

    I Was Tried (and Acquitted) for Protesting the Iraq War

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/58426/

  33. illa morales

    Democrats Aren’t Wafflers, They’re Wifflers

    by Dave Lindorff Page 1 of 1 page(s)

    http://www.opednews.com

    The Democratic Party is not a bunch of wafflers. They are a bunch of WIFLers.
    Let me explain.
    If you assume that the Democratic Party leadership is not a bunch of idiots, then the only alternative theory has to be that they think that we are.
    How else to explain this continuing failed “policy” of so-called progressive Democrats in Congress of passing terrible legislation and claiming that they will “fix it” later?
    The approach seems to have first been developed early in the 1990s, when Bill Clinton came up with his disastrous “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy for gays in the military. Everyone knew it was a shameful climbdown from his campaign promise to end discrimination against gays and lesbians in the military, but the claim, and that the policy was doomed to failure, but Clinton and his supporters claimed that they’d “at least” get that lousy policy adopted and then they’d “fix it” later.
    They never did.
    The same approach was taken to welfare “reform.” Everyone could see that throwing people off of welfare after one five-year stretch in an economy that had no jobs and no childcare to offer was going to create more poverty and hardship, but Democrats promised that before that dire day came, they’d “fix it.”
    They never did and poverty rates have soared in America.
    Likewise with the Clinton-era “Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act,” which pandered to right-wing clamor for get-tough laws after the Oklahoma City bombing by undermining habeas corpus. “We’ll fix it,” the liberals promised.
    They never did, and it paved the way for the vitiation of habeas under President Bush.
    Democrats in Congress since 9-11 have continued with this cheap ploy, hoping that by voting for crappy legislation, they can get “cover” from attacks from the right, while hanging on to liberal support with the false promise that later they will “fix it.”
    They did this when they provided their overwhelming backing for the USA PATRIOT Act and for its extension. They did it with the Military Commissions Act that seeks to retroactively legalize torture,
    And now they’ve done it with the revision—destruction really—of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
    In a sense, the Democratic backing for full funding of the Iraq War and occupation through September was the same kind of thing. “We’ll fix this in October,” was the mantra, as they provided Bush with all the money he wanted to keep the slaughter and killing going through the summer.
    What makes this “strategy” (if it can even be graced with such a name) so shameless and deceptive is that the Democratic leadership knows that with their slim majority in House and Senate, they don’t have a chance in hell of passing any corrective legislation, any more than they did when they were in the minority. Even with their small majority, if they could manage to pull together enough Democratic and liberal Republican votes to pass a bill, for example, to “fix” the FISA law and bring presidential spying under some kind of oversight, that bill would be vetoed in a flash by the president, with no chance of an override.
    And even if, by some miracle, they could assemble a veto-proof majority for a “fix,” this president would simply issue a “signing statement” invalidating the corrective legislation, as he has done now 1200 times to laws passed by Congress.
    If Democrats really wanted to stop the accelerating slide into fascism, war and economic peonage for average Americans, they could do it, but only by behaving like a genuine opposition.
    In order to put a dictatorship into place, and to further crush the American people into submission, Bush and Cheney need laws passed that increase their power ever further. Congress does not need to pass those laws.
    If, instead of passing bad legislation (and pretending that they’re going to “fix” things later), Democrats in Congress used their majorities in the two houses to simply refuse to pass bad legislation, the administration would be stymied.
    This would have been true in the case of the war, it would have been true in the case of changes to FISA, and it would have been true for changes in the Insurrection Act and the undoing of the Posse Comitatus Act.
    Of course, the sticky point is that to do that, Democrats would have to take a stand on principle—something few in the party have the spine to do, even if the do have principles to stand for.
    It is getting pretty late in the game for Congress to call a halt to this march towards dictatorship, but it could still be done.
    Americans need to tell their representatives that “fix it later” is not a strategy. It is capitulation and it is a lie, and we are not fooled.
    Americans, and especially progressives, need to let these quisling Democrats know that passing bad bills will mean no support in 2008. We simply cannot afford any more of this cowardly behavior by our supposed “leaders.”
    Better to see the Democratic Party go down to defeat in 2008, than to simply allow it to be a willing enabler of Republican tyranny, the role the party is playing today.
    As President Bush once famously said, “Fool me once…uh…shame on you. Fool me again…uh…”
    Well, you know how it goes.
    ___________________
    DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based investigative reporter and columnist. His latest book, co-authored by Barbara Olshansky, is “The Case for Impeachment” (St. Martin’s Press, 2006 and now available in paperback). His work is available at http://www.thiscantbehappening.net

    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net

  34. Do you really believe the recent media scares of nuclear weapons in Iran and Pakistan during UN break, are not unplanned strategy for justifying further invasions? Do you believe that the UN should first investigate, THEY WAY THEY DID IRAQ, but THIS TIME WE SHOULD BELIEVE THEM? How do you think the Administration is going to circumvent that very important step? And why are nuclear plants providing very necessary power to citizens acceptable in some countries and not others? Who makes those decisions? Our country/president alone?

    Please advise where I can view Muslim videos on what they are doing to promote WORLD PEACE among their own and in conjunction with other american citizens-no matter what religion or fortune cookie they get their wisdom from. I have not observed ANY SUCH peace-orientated TELEVISED ACTIONS (repeated, as we are fed the scare of this and that country warnings) since the first few months of the Iraq invasion! Is Homeland Security even in regular contact with local mosques? Who again, is controlling the media?

    Los Angeles is not taking any additional measures to prevent the lastest wave of attacks promised, even tho a listed target. Instead, we view fears of Iran, Pakistan and Korean possible power that possibly will be used against the US. LA will be blindsided and hit with shoulda, coulda excuses afterwards, like how the warning about 9/11 was ignored over chasing AQ thru Afganistan. Who got fired over that mistake?

    If Muslims do not take some action, I am predicting that this is the strategy that will be forced upon US citizens after the next attack, which is going to be allowed; so the plan of the cartel (with Bush cooperation) to control all the oil in the world can further develop.

  35. baileyhampton

    1. People voted for W because they thought he could keep them safe.

    2. Folks in the U.S. are waking up to the game of “the man behind the curtain” as in The Wizard of Oz.

    3. The way to keep people under their control and feeling powerless is to feed – through the televised media – warnings of terror 24/7. You do not – AND WILL NEVER – see anything in mainstream media that will portray “the enemy” as anything other than someone to be hated and feared.

    4. Let’s say LA is attacked – because there has been so little focus on that city (or any city other than NY), it will throw even more fear into the mix – “It can happen here.”

    5. The entire thing is planned – and the leaders of the other countries involved (ALL OF THEM) are complicit in the scheme.

    6. Muslims can do nothing more against their leaders than Christians are finding they can do against theirs.

    7. This is NOT a Muslim problem – any more than it is a Christian problem. The focus on Muslims is to draw you off of the REAL culprits – and Muslims are an easy target to sell to the American public because they are not understood: they look different; speak a different language; have a different style of dressing; and have a religion that Americans have been TOLD is violent and behind the attacks on us.

    Until you can get rid of the leaders of the U.S. that are causing the problems, please stop looking to Muslims to cure the problem. They cannot any more than you can. They are as much victims of this scenario as you are.

    And may God help us all.

  36. Illa, you and others are also basing your opinion that the direction US citizens are being manipulated into; that the strategy being employed will be seen thru by most citizens.

    Efforts to impeach should have cured you of that delusion. Have you taken an impeachment petition around to your neighbors lately? Did you speak at a city council meeting yet, asking for impeachment support; and listen to the feedback? I have.

    The majority of US citizens have not read, and DO NOT CARE to read the the excellent links such as you provide. This is not mainstream media. You will find, as I did, when attempting to discuss impeachment or any political issue, they state “I don’t want to get into this, it is too depressing” or “I have to get to my second job and have no time to figure out what my government is doing, isn’t that what the news is for?”

    I have an American Libertarian neighbor’s son (almost 30 now) …have you had to deal with skin heads on a daily basis or tried to tell them this is not a religious war? They also have the belief they are the only correct religion, but I was a “born again” Jehovah Witness for a time, and their intolerance of people of other religions is what eventually turned me away.

    You are obviously even more devoted and well-read than I and many others on all the subjects pertaining to this matter, but these are PRIMARILY obscure documents to the mainstream US populace, who tune in for weather or traffic only. And see only what is planned for them to see.

    Mark my words. If we do not raise the level of awareness of attempts of Muslims blending in with christianity, showing american muslims are as active and concerned about the US christian sons and daughters fighting Muslim civil wars, this will be the next easy step for the administration to justify further invasions.

    Please spend the afternoon with an impeachment petition in front of your local supermarket and see for yourself.

  37. illa morales

    I can only be responsible for my own actions. I choose to live in truth. If other’s choose the same great and if not, it’s not my problem. You cannot change the minds of people, they have to make that choice themselves. I try to educate about the whole pie and not focus on one piece of it. Acceptance of different cultures has a tendency for opening up conversations. If I choose to judge people, Foreigners and Americans alike, I’m closing the barriers to compromise. My optimism and tenacity cannot be squelched by the minority and I will keep on working for peace until there is no breath in my body.

  38. illa morales

    P.S. If you try your petition on-line, colleges and universities, coffee shops, bookstores you will have a more positive results.

  39. I am sorry Illa, that your “whole pie” is restricted to internet users. No wonder there has been no impeachment.

  40. illa morales

    Yes I’m resposible for Mr Bush and Cheney not getting impeached.

    Just know I’m not more well read than you, I just work very hard in all arenas of my life. I feel no need to tell you how hard, or where or when. Do your own research and your answers will come to you.

  41. illa morales

    Laura,
    I’m sorry you were treated with indifference in front of grocery store. But, Try your petitions at bookstores, coffee shops, colleges and universities. You might be pleasantly surprised!!

  42. Baily, you know history. I know you do by your posts.

    What happens to an extremists’ sect within a church? They are drummed out. They form their own church. How many of these “church” compounds exists all over now? They exist within the spheres of many religions, Baptist, Catholic, Mormon to start with a few.

    AQ does not. They infiltrate mosques everywhere. Long time fellow mosque worshipers all say “I thought he was a nice guy”. Muslim peoples can not identify the religious extremists they work, live and worship with. New Jersey proves beyond a doubt, that within the current standard methods of teachings and worship, terrorists are born.

    So, if Bush isn’t president, U.S. citizens are supposed to ignore that?

  43. illa morales

    When Will America Awaken from “The Bush Ultimatum”?
    http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorials/154




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