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Poor John McCain – not only did he look crazy during the debate Wednesday night, the man he referenced more than 20 times and applauded for being “rich” – IS! If you are going to build your entire debate platform on one man, wouldn’t you find out everything there is about him? Well…
“Joe the Plumber” is related to Charles Keating! (Remember “The Keating 5” – John and his cronies?!)
From The Huffington Post –
Robert J. Elisberg of The Huffington Post writes:
You see, Joe Wurzelbacher is apparently related to Robert Wurzelbacher. Who is the son-in-law of (are you ready…?) Charles Keating!
Yes, that Charles Keating. The Charles Keating of the Keating 5 Scandal. For which John McCain was reprimanded by the United States Senate, for his involvement in attempting to illegally influence government regulators. The Charles Keating who John McCain has been trying to avoid have mentioned. So, he basically mentioned it 24 times.
Anyway, back to Robert Wurzelbacher, Joe the Plumber’s father. You see, Robert Wurzelbacher was an executive of American Continental Corporation, the parent company of Charles Keating’s Lincoln Savings. That’s the bank which caused citizens to lose their life savings and cost U.S. taxpayers $3.4 billion. As part of that scandal, Robert Wurzelbacher pleaded guilty to three counts of misapplying $14 million and served 40 months in prison.
And now, Lincoln Savings, Robert Wurzelbacher and Joe the Plumber are back with John McCain.
“Congratulations! You’re rich!,” indeed.
Maybe it is too late for this, maybe the last three weeks of the presidential campaign are going to be about as high-minded as a rock fight. Or an Ultimate Fight. But at Hofstra University on Wednesday night, you want Barack Obama and John McCain to present themselves as they really are, not just as products of their handlers and where they are in the polls.
You want them to actually talk to each other and talk to us at the same time, before it is too late. Because for now, this is what the process has become:
Obama, the candidate leading in the polls, having to defend himself against the notion that he isn’t just an opponent to McCain, but an enemy, and about half-a-traitor. And that isn’t a shame for one side or the other, it is a shame for all of us.
At the same time that McCain runs a television commercial saying Obama is “too risky for America,” at the same time Sarah Palin goes around America accusing Obama of “palling around with terrorists” and sounds like some windup doll for right-wing radio, here was John McCain on Friday – in a moment of both decency and humanity – saying this at a town hall meeting in Minnesota:
“[Obama] is a person you don’t have to be afraid [of] as President of the United States.”
In that moment, McCain was so much better than what his campaign has become the past few weeks, so much better than his own running mate, who more and more acts drunk with being famous or maybe just from the roar of the Obama haters in the crowd.
This is still a contest for the most important elective office on Earth, at one of the most perilous moments in history, and sometimes you think the whole thing is being geared to a huge demographic comprised only of stupid people. When it is like this, Obama and McCain aren’t the losers. We are. However this comes out.
I came down Sunday morning and there on the kitchen counter was the envelope, stamped and ready to go, from my college freshman. The outside read “Official Absentee Balloting Material – First Class Mail.” It was about as first-class as you get, the first vote of his life. His brother, a college junior, also a first-time voter, had already mailed in his ballot to the town clerk where we live.
The two of them went through the process of getting absentee ballots on their own, no help from their mother or from me. They were thrilled from the start to watch the long primary season play out, thrilled they would finally have something to say about the fragile and dangerous world we are handing over to them. Only now they are appalled by what they hear and see in the late innings.
Obama is no saint here. He is a politician, and his ambition is no more sacred than McCain’s. But say this about him: His narrative hasn’t changed in two years. He has run the same campaign against McCain that he ran against Hillary Clinton and all the rest of them. If he has sometimes fought back against the other side with his own nasty rhetoric, it is probably because he saw what happened to John Kerry four years ago, when he was slow to fight back against the scamming of a cynical political lowlife like Karl Rove, and saw how the country lost because of that.
But if Obama wants to tell McCain to say the things his ads say to his face, let him say that to McCain’s face on Wednesday night at Hofstra, not to Charlie Gibson. If Obama really thinks McCain is too old and too erratic to be President, let him say that at Hofstra, too.
If McCain wants to come after Obama with William Ayers, an old member of the Weather Underground, the Swift Boat All-Star of this campaign, then let him question Obama directly about Ayers, not go through Bob Schieffer, the moderator, or anybody else. If McCain thinks some old relationship with Ayers makes Obama “too risky for America,” then let him explain that with something other than the innuendo and invective of his campaign’s current ads.
McCain has a right to be angry these days, as he sees his last shot at the presidency begin to slip away from him. He not only was ruined by Bush/Rove gutter politics eight years ago, now he must feel as if he is being ruined all over again by Bush’s presidency, the worst and weakest in 100 years. But McCain was better than Bush eight years ago. He should be better now, no matter what the hacks working for him tell him he has to do to win.
The process was supposed to be better than this, the ending to these two years of presidential politics was supposed to be better because the stakes are as high as they have ever been. Obama is not an enemy of the country, he is not the enemy of the Republican Party, no matter what the yahoos say.
John McCain encountered real enemies of this country a long time ago in Vietnam. He should know the difference better than anyone.
PALIN: Said of Democratic presidential candidate Obama: “94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction.”
THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.
BIDEN: Complained about “economic policies of the last eight years” that led to “excessive deregulation.”
THE FACTS: Biden voted for 1999 deregulation that liberal groups are blaming for part of the financial crisis today. The law allowed Wall Street investment banks to create the kind of mortgage-related securities at the core of the problem now. The law was widely backed by Republicans as well as by Democratic President Clinton, who argues it has stopped the crisis today from being worse.
PALIN: Criticized Obama’s “plan to mandate health care coverage and have universal government run program” for health care, and added: “I don’t think it’s going to be real pleasing for Americans to consider health care being taken over by the Feds.”
THE FACTS: Wrong on several counts. Obama’s plan does not provide for universal coverage, only mandates insurance for children and doesn’t turn the system over to the government. Most people would still get private insurance through their work. Obama proposes that the government subsidize the cost of health coverage for millions who have trouble affording it and he’d set up an exchange to negotiate prices and benefits with private insurers — with one option being a government-run plan.
BIDEN: Warned that Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s $5,000 tax credit to help families buy health coverage “will go straight to the insurance company.”
THE FACTS: That’s not surprising – the money is meant to pay for health insurance.
PALIN: “Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.”
THE FACTS: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska led an effort in 2005 to tighten regulation on the mortgage underwriters — McCain joined as a co-sponsor a year later. The legislation was never taken up by the full Senate, then under Republican control.
BIDEN: Said McCain supports tax breaks for oil companies, and “wants to give them another $4 billion tax cut.”
THE FACTS: Biden is repeating a favorite saw of the Obama campaign, and it’s misleading. McCain supports a cut in income taxes for all corporations, and doesn’t single out any one industry for that benefit.
PALIN: Said the United States has reduced its troop level in Iraq to a number below where it was when the troop increase began in early 2007.
THE FACTS: Not correct. The Pentagon says there are currently 152,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 17,000 more than there were before the 2007 military buildup began.
BIDEN: “As a matter of fact, John recently wrote an article in a major magazine saying that he wants to do for the health care industry — deregulate it and let the free market move — like he did for the banking industry.”
THE FACTS: Biden and Obama have been perpetuating this distortion of what McCain wrote in an article for the American Academy of Actuaries. McCain, laying out his health plan, only referred to deregulation when saying people should be allowed to buy health insurance across state lines. In that context, he wrote: “Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.”
PALIN: Said Alaska is “building a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline, which is North America’s largest and most expensive infrastructure project ever to flow those sources of energy into hungry markets.”
THE FACTS: Not quite. Construction is at least six years away. So far the state has only awarded a license to Trans Canada Corp., that comes with $500 million in seed money in exchange for commitments toward a lengthy and costly process to getting a federal certificate. At an August news conference after the state Legislature approved the license, Palin said, “It’s not a done deal.”
PALIN: “Barack Obama even supported increasing taxes as late as last year for those families making only $42,000 a year.”
BIDEN: “The charge is absolutely not true. Barack Obama did not vote to raise taxes.”
THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding budget resolution that assumed that President Bush’s tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000. But Obama is proposing tax increases only on the wealthy, and would cut taxes for most others.
PALIN: Said a McCain-Palin administration “will support Israel,” including “building our embassy … in Jerusalem.”
THE FACTS: Moving the U.S. Embassy from its present location in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a perennial promise of presidential candidates courting the Jewish-American vote. In fact, moving the embassy is actually required by U.S. law. But successive administrations of both parties, including George W. Bush’s, have made the same pledge only to find that the realities of Middle East peacemaking have forced them to invoke a waiver to delay it. Jerusalem is claimed as a capital by both Israel and the Palestinians and Israel’s occupation of east Jerusalem is not internationally recognized. The city’s status is one of the key issues of disagreement in peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.
Dan Quayle – what will we be watching on YouTube tomorrow?
Can’t keep the players straight without a scorecard? Want to check all of the candidates’ positions at a glance? Here’s how:
Didn’t you wonder why this wasn’t asked? It was the #1 video as voted on by visitors to CommunityCounts:
And here is Chris Dodd’s pathetic excuse for an answer. BUZZZZZ! Wrong answer, Sen. Dodd! Thanks for playing! Next contestant, please!
Lots and lots and lots of e-mails about the debates that just ended. I will absolutely NOT discuss who I thought “won” – I’ve already discussed the earlier “debates” and haven’t changed my mind.
I will limit my comments to the candidates “YouTube-style” campaign videos:
The winner – hands down – John Edwards!
The loser – and we’re taking bets around here how long the staffer who made that piece of cr@p has a job – Hillary Clinton! What was she thinking?!
And that, folks, is The End of this installment of the Hillary and Obama Show. Thanks for watching!
Well – what do you think of the “debates?”
Here’s my short and sweet take – from what I can see (and I’m not a registered Republicrat or Democan), what we have here on both sides are over-paid people who think you’re stupid and that you will continue to fall for the blatant crap they’ve been handing you for years.
How is it that they keep doing the same thing over and over and over – aren’t you insulted yet? I sure as hell am!
And now, in order to show you just how much like you they are, the Repub’s (or should I say “Repug‘s”) have decided to start bashing “The Decider”/”The Commander Guy.” WTF?! Talk is cheap – but these folks are anything but cheap with your money!
The only one who seems to have his head on straight is Ron Paul – and the “news” media is doing it’s damnedest to marginalize him off the ballot. I understand when Fox News doesn’t fall at his feet, but when ABC and CNN both hide his poll numbers and remove comments about him from their blog sites…WTF again?! And when they do mention him, they make sure to call him “a Libertarian.” He’s a Republican, but with one word, he’s moved into the “crazy hippie” category and no longer considered viable by a lot of voters – or so they hope. Here’s one of the challenges – in order for him to win the Presidency, he has to win the Republican nomination. That means, folks, that those of us who would like to vote for him have to be registered Republicans – and that idea, frankly, makes me more than a bit crazy!
So that brings me to the Dem’s. I am beginning (?) to have no use for them either. Can’t override a veto?! Another “WTF?!” Actually go into a vote “knowing” they can’t override it…but “making a statement” with their position!? I am tired of their sorry “statements!” The only statement I want to hear out of any of them is “WE HAVE DE-AUTHORIZED THE WAR AND THE TROOPS ARE COMING HOME!” I’d also settle for “WE HAVE BROUGHT CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE COMMANDEERED OUR CONSTITUTION AND AN HONEST POLITICIAN (oxymoron, anyone?) HAS BECOME THE PRESIDENT!”
I know you’re out there with me screaming “When!!!!!!” at the top of your lungs. I was reminded of the 100th monkey story again today – and I know we’re making a difference! I want you to know that, as tired as we all are…I think you are the most courageous group of people on the planet! (Thanks for taking that “moment” with me. I’m better now.)
The tide is turning – and more and more people are listening to you and those like you. They are also, maybe, beginning to hear what the politicians are really saying.